With lots of talk about the cracker start to the grain growing season, there are plenty of farmers who've missed out on that precious rain.
Andrew Coumbe farms north east of Nungarin and although he had good summer rain there hasn't really been any real 'opening' rain.
He's had 15 millimetres for April and May this year when on an average year he'd have about 50 millimetres to start off the growing season.
And Mr Coumbe isn't alone.
Nick Gillett farms at Bencubbin, about 50 kilometres from the Coumbe's farm, and he's had an average of about 10 millimetres of rain across his property.
Mr Gillett says despite the lack of rain he's pretty well committed to see out his seeding program and aims to have it all in by next weekend.
"We haven't had enough to get a decent germination but there's good sub-soil moisture at depth."
"You'd have to be pretty pessimistic to not continue considering our results last year with a pretty poor winter I thought were pretty encouraging."
"You can't judge a season out here until September so we'll just keep at it."
Despite others in the WA grain growing community boasting of their generous rainfall results, Mr Gillett is staying optimistic.
"It's something you wish for and everything but we've had late breaks before and it's panned out well."
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